Get support for Black Eels - Revision history

PaposikG6: /* Walkthrough */

2023-11-19T13:17:01Z

Walkthrough

Abscisin: /* SGS support */ as of 1.0.4.16 Gorsky's presence or absence doesn't affect outcome, skill requirements as before

2019-01-11T13:29:08Z

SGS support: as of 1.0.4.16 Gorsky's presence or absence doesn't affect outcome, skill requirements as before

Wikiman: /* Walkthrough */ fixed worst parts of outdated information, split into two subheadings

2019-01-11T07:20:30Z

Walkthrough: fixed worst parts of outdated information, split into two subheadings

Abscisin: skill checks

2017-08-25T01:01:35Z

skill checks

Abscisin: image, corrected the bit about the council, and added some missing options to the walkthrough

2017-01-22T04:24:19Z

image, corrected the bit about the council, and added some missing options to the walkthrough

WikimanBot at 14:16, 22 March 2016

2016-03-22T14:16:49Z

Wikiman at 20:05, 29 June 2014

2014-06-29T20:05:31Z

Wikiman at 09:28, 20 June 2014

2014-06-20T09:28:48Z

Wikiman at 02:04, 7 October 2013

2013-10-07T02:04:58Z

Wikiman at 22:11, 13 August 2013

2013-08-13T22:11:22Z

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 === SGS support ===
 This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 effective skill required). Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
 === Protectorate support ===

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 === SGS support ===
-This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (?{{verify}} effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (?{{verify}} effective skill required). The default outcome of the council depends on whether Gorsky is still around to push his agenda or not. The persuasion skill check values also change depending on Gorsky's presence.[http://underrail.com/forums/index.php?topic=3314.msg18444#msg18444] Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
+This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 effective skill required). Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
 In versions prior to [[1.0.3]], you can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them. However, this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest.

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	== Walkthrough ==		== Walkthrough ==
−	This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 effective skill required). You can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them, however this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.

		+	=== SGS support ===
		+	This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (?{{verify}} effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (?{{verify}} effective skill required). The default outcome of the council depends on whether Gorsky is still around to push his agenda or not. The persuasion skill check values also change depending on Gorsky's presence.[http://underrail.com/forums/index.php?topic=3314.msg18444#msg18444] Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
		+
		+	In versions prior to [[1.0.3]], you can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them. However, this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest.
		+
		+	=== Protectorate support ===
	On the other hand - if you want Protectorate's help, just head to the embassy and tell the situation to ambassador [[Athanas]]. The Union will gladly help on the condition of letting them increase their military presence in Junkyard gate and docks.		On the other hand - if you want Protectorate's help, just head to the embassy and tell the situation to ambassador [[Athanas]]. The Union will gladly help on the condition of letting them increase their military presence in Junkyard gate and docks.

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 == Walkthrough ==
-This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 skill required). You can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them, however this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
+This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 effective skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 effective skill required). You can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them, however this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
 On the other hand - if you want Protectorate's help, just head to the embassy and tell the situation to ambassador [[Athanas]]. The Union will gladly help on the condition of letting them increase their military presence in Junkyard gate and docks.

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 | name     = Get support for Black Eels
 | type     = side
-| image    =
+| image    = Council_room.png
 | location = [[Junkyard]]<br>[[South Gate Station]]
 | givenby  = [[Dockmaster Silas]]
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 == Walkthrough ==
-This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with all five SGS councilors (Tanner, Gorsky, Vera, Jonas, Ezra), and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting if your persuasion skill is high enough ''(around 45?)''. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
+This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with the three SGS councilors (Tanner, Vera, Gorsky) as well as Ezra and Jonas, and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting in several ways. You can persuade them if you suggest to form a temporary alliance with the Eels but remain neutral towards the Protectorate (45 skill required), or if you take an anti-Protectorate stance because you consider the Eels a less serious threat (50 skill required). You can also convince them without a skill check by saying you'll leave the politics to them, however this option will only succeed if you have already finished the [[Find the drill parts]] quest. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.
 On the other hand - if you want Protectorate's help, just head to the embassy and tell the situation to ambassador [[Athanas]]. The Union will gladly help on the condition of letting them increase their military presence in Junkyard gate and docks.

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 | location = [[Junkyard]]<br>[[South Gate Station]]
 | givenby  = [[Dockmaster Silas]]
-| rewards  = 500 classic XP / ? oddity XP
+| rewards  = 500 classic XP / 0 oddity XP
 | related  =
 | previous = [[Find Blaine]]

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 Once you've revealed the weakness Blaine knew about Scrapper's defense, Silas wants you to get help for the upcoming battle, either from South Gaters or from the Protectorate.
-= Objectives =
+'''NOTE:''' If you [[kill Blaine]] or [[Black Eels' route to Old Junkyard|reveal the wormhole to scrappers]], you cannot do the last quests for Black Eels!
 * Get either SGS or United Stations/Protectorate to help Black Eels take down the Scrappers
-= Walkthrough =
+== Walkthrough ==
 This can be a tricky one. If you want SGS to help, head back to South Gate Station and inform [[Tanner]] of the situation. He will hold an emergency council meeting with all five SGS councilors (Tanner, Gorsky, Vera, Jonas, Ezra), and you're also invited. You can affect the outcome of the meeting if your persuasion skill is high enough ''(around 45?)''. Talk to Tanner the next morning after the meeting and you'll see if you succeeded. If not, South Gate will decide against helping the Black Eels.